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Pitching grips: How to throw eight baseball pitches

So you want to know how to throw a new pitch? Here's how former Red Sox pitching coach Dave Wallace teaches them....

Wallace_four_seamer

Four seam fastball: You want your fingers a little bit apart. Preferably on the other side of the seams so when the ball comes out you have resistance to throw against. It's firm with the fingers but should be somewhat of a subtle wrist. You don't want to be stiff.

A little space in here [between the palm of the hand and the ball].

The thumb almost bisects [the index and middle finger].

The movement would be straight. Four seams rotating out of your hand. The guys who throw hard, it's going to seem like the ball takes off.

Wallace_two_seam_fastball

Sinker ball: Most of the time, your fingers are parallel with the seams. Sometimes, depending on finger pressure, it could be on one seam, it could be on the other seam.

A lot of guys throw a sinker off of the middle finger. The movement is down and late. It sinks, for a righthanded pitcher, into a righthander, and away from a lefthander.

For a lefthander, it's into a lefthander, away from a righthander.'

Wallace_curveball

Curve ball: Usually, it's this middle finger, inside a seam. And what you want to do is throw it like a fastball to here [where the elbow and arm form an L, with your arm perpendicular to the ground], and turn your hand in.

You're pulling down the front of the ball, trying to increase the rate of rotation, which is usually 13 revolutions from the time it leaves your hand until it gets home.

Right here, like an L shape, I'm going to pull down on the ball and make it spin as much as I can. There's various ways to teach it and throw it.

Wallace_knuckleball

Knuckleball: The whole idea is to make that ball come out of your hand taking the spin off of the ball. That's what a knuckleballer's intent is. Because the resistance of the air will handle the movement. Fingernails digging into the ball. I know Tom Candiotti used to get manicures all the time.

The thing I learned right away is it's more important to be in the right position. You have to be so precise.'' Which, Wallace said, underscores pitching as a whole.

''It's the constant struggle for perfection,'' he said, ''with the realization that you'll never achieve it.

Wallace_splitter

Splitter: It's a fastball. I'm just splitting the seam. What you don't want to do is get under the ball and it doesn't break. It hangs. [Executed properly] it breaks down.

Wallace_slider

Slider: That's the one where at the end you really make an effort to get on top of the ball. You can call it a slider, a curve, a slurve. Sometimes a cutter is a slider. Usually you have finger pressure on your middle finger, across the seam or on the seam.

Wallace_circle_changeup

Circle change up: The circle change is the most common. Usually, with a fastball, you have 100 percent of your strength in these two fingers, the index and middle fingers. You take 50 percent of that strength away by removing the index finger. So you're holding the ball real lightly. ... Your wrist is real loose. The ball is real loose in your hand. And you just throw a fastball.

That's why you teach it at a young age, because it's just repetition. ... The whole idea is to make it look like a fastball coming out of your arm.

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Cutter: Usually you hold it like a fastball. The grip is a little bit off of center. Throwing it is like a fastball, and right here [at about the release point, turn over your wrist].

The idea is, it's got fastball rotation, and at about 59 feet, it cuts into a righthander for a lefthanded pitcher. For a righthanded pitcher it cuts into a lefthander.

Why is Mariano Rivera's cutter so good? Because it's so late and so quick, and the rotation has such good fastball rotation. It looks fastball to a hitter because you can't see the rotation.

Posted by Steven Ellis on April 14, 2007
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Comments

Amiri

My fav pitch is the circle change & curve

ivan k

it was cool! thanks a lot.

Louis Mangone

do u throw a knuckle ball just as hard of a fastball

j

I was wondering, weather i can hold splitter with a little narrower grip and still get the effect, cause when I hold it that way my control really suffers

m.atki

Just keep throwin!

matthew

is there any other way to throw a knuckle, that might bee asier for a 12-14 year old

josh

is there any way to throw the knuckle ball for younger kids in the 12 year old range?

Steven Ellis

Thanks for the question, Josh. The reason the knuckle ball is largely ignored at the youth level (12 years old and under) is because it generally requires large hands to throw effectively.

Steven

Dan Gazaway

Once again, another great article by Steven Ellis.
In another article Steven has written he talks about keeping the batter off balance by throwing different pitches, varying speeds and location etc.
I am a firm believer that a pitcher must have three great pitches that he can throw at any time at any location (painting strike zone of course. Not good pitches, but great ones. Many people have a good curveball, but hitters struggle hitting a great curveball. Get three "great" pitches and you will win many more games.
Of course, you should have great fastball mechanics before you learn to throw any other pitches.

Donnie

The slider isnt really shown good in its example. Im 12 and just started pitching. I need some good pitches for a kid to throw. Especially sense im on a travel team. What pitches fo you reccomend?

Movement

I am 13 and looking to expand my pitches. I now throw a fastball (2 and 4 seam) and a circle change. Both have good movement but not quite enough. I am learning a slider now. Do you have any suggestions on what I should try to learn?

Ian

im 14, i through 2 and 4 seam fastballs, with a mean slider and have great control on my pitches what would be the next best pitch for me to learn?

TJ

I'm 12 I throw a 2 and 4 seamer, a good-moving slider, circle change and an eephus. Are there any other pitches I should learn to mow down batters?

Twoseam

a great out pitch that i would recomend to every young pitcher is a good 12-6 curveball. A curveball that changes planes like a good 12-6 is almost impossible to get ahold of. If used correctly youll almost always get a K or an easy groundball out of it

chris maloney

hey i cant seem to be able to throw an effective pitch other than fastballs and a very average change up in a game but when i practice i seem fine do you have any suggestions

Steven Ellis

Nice comments, I agree with you.

Steven

69er

well done you should look into throwin the gyroballl that would be cool

Ryan

I really want to know how to throw a running fastball.

DansMuayThaiMMA

you should add the straight change to this list. also, i think on the circle change you place the ball deeper in your hand then you have displayed in the picture above.

paul beirne

I'm 12 years old. I just turned it a day ago. I throw a 4-seamer, 2-seamer, and how do you think I can learn a nasty changeup. I have speed. About 52 MPH-55 MPH. I'm 5-2, 109LBs. I am on a travel baseball team. I'm also on Williamport. Could be in LL World Series next year.If so any other pitches I can throw.

Ben

I'm 14 I know how to throw a 2 and 4 seam I also have a wicked curve what should I learn next

Salio34

Im 14 and going into my sophmore year and am going out for the team. My speed ranges from 70 on my fastball to a 55 on my curveball. I want to learn how to throw a sinker. so how can i?

David

So I'm 15 years old, I can throw a nasty curve, 2 seam, 4 seam, change up, and a sinker. I want to learn another pitch but I'm not sure what I want to throw. I've been thinking about a cutter...Any suggestions?

De'Andre Brown

I am 14 about to be a sophmore 60-70 mph fast ball, 50 mph curve, 50 mph on splitter

Orlando carrillo

hello I am 13 years old and I have been pitching for 3 years now. I throw a 2 and 4 seam fastball and a splitter.I want to learn a good breaking pitch and asking do you think a cutter or a slider is better to learn.thanks

Jake

I'm 15 and have a good 80 MPH fastball and a good moving curve and change up. I've been messing around with some off speeds pitches, but don't really know wich pitch to do. Any suggestions.

Ben

Thanks so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)

2evagleh

I'm 15 goin on 16, my 3rd year in baseball, i throw a good 86mph fstball but i cant throw a good curve to save my life i can also throw a good change and split finger but thats it i really want a good curve, any suggestions?

Will

Im 11...I throw a 2-seam fastball, 4-seam fastball, knuckle(works well), curve, and circle change up. At my age curveballs kill my arm so i dont throw much, if you are under the age of 13 i reccommend you throw either a circle change or a knuckleball for your offspead...thanks for the pictures.

josh

i am 17 and i throw a 88 to 93 mph fastball and i have a nasty curve and i have about one of the best sinkers u will ever see in ur life

jordan

hi i am 11 almost 12 i have been pitching for 4 years now. but i have some trouble with the knuckle ball my hand are perfect size but i just kant get it down. any suggestoins?

carter

hey im 11 i play travel ball and i pitch 50 to 68 mph and my fav pitch is the 4 sim fast ball i just like to blow it by them

taylor n.

hi im 12 and my to favorite pitches are the curvball and the sinker, but some times my sinker would werk and sometimes it wont, and comments?

Andrew

hey im 14 just becoming a sophmore and my fastball is 65-75 constantly and im just learning to throw a changeup which is going well but when i throw my curveball it gets the right break i want but i throw it too high. any suggestions??

nic

i dont understand how to throw the sinkerball will u help me

Mike

hey, i could through curve balls, change ups, fastballs. my friend is teaching me.

Brandyn Braswell

Hey I'm 14 and I throw 4 seam, 2 seam, slider, 12-6 curve and a circle change but soon also a cutter but with my 12-6 curve I hold it like my slider...why???

Justin

You throw a knucle ball almost as hard as a 4 seam. I've only pitched 2 weeks with my dad and have already mastered it. I recommend throwing it like your doing shot put. It helps you master the no spin thing. I can throw it about 65MPH but cant for the life of me get my release time right on my 2 and 4 seam. Any sugestions welcome.

Keep on throwing ;)

Drake

im 15 and i throw a slurve and a forkball. is that okay for my arm or should i wait tell my arm matures more

Logan

im gonna be a junior next year and im right handed and i throw 85-86 with a 12-6 curve and a change. i need another pitch to add and i want to either throw a cutter or a sinker. can you teach me one or both of them?

paul cathey

Hi im 14 about to be 15 I throw a sinker 4seam 2seam slider curve and a decent splitter I am the #1 pitcher in the county and the 16 in the state of Texas thanks for the pics

logan

i'm 13 and i'm about 6 foot tall should I throw a slider i can throw one and it is sick but my coaches say i shouldn't throw cause it will damage my arm.

Justin

Hi, Im 13 years old, I throw about 60, and I have a Four Seem, Two Seem, Curve/Slurve, Changeup, and sometimes I throw a sidearm pitch that moves. Just wanted to say I like this article, but I throw my Curve like a four seem, but put my fingers together. It works well.

JT

i need help throwing a sinker im 12 help

Tyler

hi im 12 years old, i dont play baseball for a team but i throw some nasty pitches.i can hrow a 4 seam, 2 seam, curve, splitter, forkball, slider and a nasty dropball. im still trying to learn how to thro a cutter. any tips

sam

im 13 and play travel baseball i am the #1 pitcher in my league i throw 4seams 2seams and a wicked curve but sometimes it goes from left to right and not right to left any answers?

chance

im 16 and i have a two seam, change, curve, and a 4 seam. But my 4 seam doesnt go straight at all its really a cutter, but i can still top out at about 80-81. I really dont think that these kids need to have a curveball, slider at 12 or 13 years old. All i did is learn how to use my movement on my 2 seam to pitch and along with my (cutter) its an amazing combo. Id say my change up and 2 seam are my best pitches and thats wat i throw. Ill use my curve every once in a while to mess with the batter (usually just bounce it with 2 strikes to get a swing). Look at mo rivera all he throws are fastballs and look what hes done, if you just learn a couple GREAT fatsballs (2 seam, cutter) you will be effective. And remember to throw down with a 2 seam-youll get tons of ground ball outs, and thats how i work.
I gave up only one home run on varsity in about 50 innings(300 ft. fences)

Josh

Hey my name is Josh, I'm 32 and I'm a coach for a little league team. I throw about 84 mph and I have a sick curve ball that a throw the kids. I accidently hit a kid last night and I feel bad. My question is, should I continue to throw it?

Garrett Garcia

hey,im 13 years old and about 5 foot 6 and throw about 68 to 75 mph i cant get my knuckle curve down. do you think you could post a picture or to of them?thanks.

Nick

Hey I'm 12 and i throw about 70 with a 4 seemer, an okay change and i have the weird pitch. I don't really know what it is. if you're a righty, you put your middle and index fingers on the right side of the "horseshoe" then I sort of snap my wrist and it breaks tremendously. Is this doing any harm to my arm?

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